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So…. I went to the MF DOOM show this past Thursday Dec 13th @ MJQ in ATL.
The night started off good for me, Dj Applejac was spinning when I walked in and he was killing it. Although the kids who came out to see Doom looked like they were just there for the show and had no attentions of dancing or even acting like they were enjoying the music. Which is weird considering they all paid $30 to get in. (FOR THE RECORD SENOR KAOS DID NOT PAY TO ATTEND THIS FUNCTION).Stacy Epps hopped up on stage and rocked one of her new records. Proud of you Stace, you’ve come a long way.
And then we waited, and waited! The show started Dumb Late, the opening acts didnt jump on stage until Midnight. And there sets were longer than they should of been at a hour where fans had already been waiting around for Doom for a few hours.
Shout out to the homie John Robinson (JR) who rocked and kept his set short.During the open sets there were the Doom Dunks being thrown out from the stage (MF Doom X Nike released a SB Dunk earlier this year). Shout out to the homie D Woods who bullied his way into a pair of 10.5 kicks!! Pics coming soon!
Finally at 1:28 AM a figure wearing a mask emerges from the back and takes the stage. Kids go crazy! He never greets the crowd, says hello or anything, and hes wearing some Fatigue cargo net looking thing covering his head.
FROM THE JUMP I SAID – THAT AINT HIM!!!!!!FOR THE RECORD, FOR THOSE THAT DON’T KNOW, I’VE PERFORMED WITH MF DOOM BEFORE, AT HIS FIRST SHOW IN ATL, AND DID ANOTHER EVENT WITH HIM DOING AN EXCLUSIVE DJ SET (WHEN HAVE YOU EVER SEEN DOOM DJ…. THOUGHT SO, ACT RIGHT!!!) – AND I’VE SEEN HIM NUMEROUS TIMES WITHOUT THE MASK!
So without greeting the crowd, this person jumps into song songs while Lip Sinching the whole time. How do you he was lip sinching kaos? Because money had the CD quality vocals, and anybody who has ever performed or watched a show at MJQ knows that the sound aint that damn good! (no dis to mjq). There was no talking other than the verses, No what up, how ya’ll doing, get ya hands up, none of that! And later on the evening I was told by a source that there wasn’t even a signal in dudes Cordless Mic. Things that make you go Hmmmmm….
So during all this, there was only a few of us who knew what was going on, while others in the front (mostly young kids) were soo happy they hearing songs went on to believe that were watching the real thing.
At some point of the show people started throwing cups! Check out the Video right here
OH OF COURSE WE HERE AT THE THEKAOSEFFECT HAVE EXCLUSIVE FOOTAGE!
And someone else who was heckling was thrown out by sercurity as well – Dragged out by his neck!
22 Minutes later the imposter posing as Doom walks off the stage, no Peace, no thanks for coming out or nothing!! Only at this point that a lot fans realize they had just witnessed the Okeedoke!
Well after this I guess things got real funny, the Merch dude got his stuff took, and it is reported that there was money stolen by Dooms people. ( I say reported cause I didnt see anybody steal any money).
And of course the Internet heard about it first. Starting with Randy – Promoter for the show who posted the following bulletin on Myspace the next day! It reads like this:
“Many apologies go to all of you who came out to the MF DOOM show last night at MJQ and paid $30 of your hard earned money only to watch him lip sinc for 20 minutes at 1:30 in the morning. This was by far one of the single worst experiences I’ve had as a club promoter and I sincerely apologize if you walked away feeling cheated. To make matters even worse MF DOOMS appointed doorman took off with all the money from the door after the show! As soon as we realized the money was stolen we decided to help ourselves to all of MF DOOMS merchandise which included a bunch of T shirts and posters. So, in an effort to make it up to everyone who walked away feeling cheated, we’re giving away all the merchandise for free so come and get it while supplies last!! And if that’s not enough, feel free to let MF DOOM aka Daniel Dumile know how you really feel by calling him at his home in Kennesaw Georgia.
(HIS FULL HOME ADDRESS WAS POSTED, WE WILL NOT POST IT HERE, CAUSE THATS SOME GAY SHIT)
DANIEL T DUMILE
xxxx xxxxxx DR NW
KENNESAW GA xxxxx-xxxx(xxx) xxx-xxxx
All the best,Randy Castello / Tight Bros Network”
Then there were posts on Okay Player / URB Magazine Blog / Etc, Etc…
Apart of me feels bad for all the fans who came out and dropped their dough at the door for this, and other part of me feels like – thats what you get for jumping on the bandwagon. If you knew anything about Doom then you would know that this is not the first time this has been done. This started 2 years ago oversees where it was reported someone not looking like Doom toured Europe. Then there was the Elemental Magazine cover that was suppose to be Doom and wasnt, and Scratch Magazine article, where he sent someone else to do the interview and they called him out about it. And cant forget more recently Rock The Bells show in NYC July 29th and El Rey in LA Aug 12 where the same figure wearing a mask lip sinched his way threw the set. DOOM SAID 2 YEARS AGO IN AN INTERVIEW “the mask is the show whoever is in it is DOOM”
So quit trying to be cool and support the other hip hop artists who do great shows, and always show up to perform and you will get your moneys worth, not your money took!!
Also while were on the topic. A few years back MF Grimm made a song called “Book of Daniel” If your not up on the song it was Diss towards MF Doom from an old friend and the song is very personal. Check it for yourself, and shout out to Squeeze Radio in NYC (www.myspace.com/highwaterismusic.com) who were the first to premier this song on the airwaves when it came out.
Peep some of the flicks
Man, I’m a day 1 Doom supporter and that shit he pulled at MJQ was the most fugazie shit I’ve ever experienced in my life in hip hop as a fan and working in the industry (LAME, LAME, LAME) You just lost one playboy. DOOM has officially hit free download status in my book, so if anybody got some new shit, shoot that ZSHARE link out, Ya Dig!!!
Ohhhh, and them metal face academy niggaz….TRASH!!! Geeeez, espeically them last dudes GEEEEZ, HOT TRASH!!!
UNO
fam, i’m wondering who would pay 30 beans to see this nigga in the first place. did he have broads in the back willing and ready to suck and fuck? lol i’m saying though. doom is cool on record, but i wouldn’t bother seeing dude live.
Certainly not the first time. I sent this to Bol back in August: http://www.byroncrawford.com/2007/08/the-gallagher-t.html
Having just seen the video, I can safely say that it’s Doom and those are not the vocal tracks on the records. So why is everyone calling this a Milli Vanilli?
I’m glad I wasn’t at the Q to witness this fuckery. I don’t think I could ever support Doom again. It’s one thing to do that shit over seas, but to do it in Atlanta at MJQ!? HELL NO. We are the taste makers… it’s people like us that got him props in the first place.
I forgot to mention, One of my good friends of many years, DJ Rob-A from Virginia had done a track for Doom back in the day. Not only did Doom not come correct on the dough but when the album came out didn’t even give Rob credit. Fuckin’ shady.
Damn, my neck is getting famous. Maybe my neck can lipsynch for DOOM next time.
DOOM can suck it.
Oh and here is some funny correspondence from a friend of mine screwing with the losers from MOBONIX via myspace:
—————– Original Message —————–
From: Sharonda
Date: 15/12/2007
Boy y’all sucked it up the other night. That one white boy was clownin your ass. Y’all some busters and got booed off the stage. Nice false advertising on the behalf of the imposter DOOM. You know 5 people wouldn’t show up to a solo concert of yours if it was ladies night at a strip club.
Busta!!!
—————– Original Message —————–
From: Mobonix
Date: Dec 15, 2007 5:46 PM
Obviously your dumb as hell. Thanks for your money though. Imma go buy some special herbs.
—————– Original Message —————–
From: Sharonda
Date: 16/12/2007
You got clowned you little fag glam rapper. Did you not hear all the boos????
Y’all suck. Go back to fast food
—————– Original Message —————–
From: Mobonix
Date: Dec 16, 2007 3:09 PM
I’m just the intern anyway dumbass. I WRITE BACK ALL THE DUMB ASS FANS LIKE YOU.
BUT DO A LITTLE RESEARCH ON WHO MOBONIX IS AND WHAT HE’S MEANT TO ATLANTA AND THE WORLD. BY THE WAY DUDES ALREADY RICH.
THANKS FOR THE ENERGY. POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE OUR TEAM WINS!
THANKS
—————– Original Message —————–
From: Sharonda
Date: 17/12/2007
Wow you are really important then. Mobonix little helper monkey. Does he throw you a piece every now and then? I bet your parents are proud when you tell them you work for a “famous” rapper
—————– Original Message —————–
From: Mobonix
Date: Dec 18, 2007 9:13 AM
Your myspace pictures make you look like a normal black person. Cute girl even.
Why are you acting so damn stupid? Your older than me acting like a child though. I feel sorry for you.
We are some of the last BLACK REVOLUTIONARIES. Don’t you get it?
You paid your money to be there. You buy the records. Don’t front.
When we change the world.
We fightin for you too, Baby!
Be blessed.
I’m done dissin. If you wanna go out for some drinks or whatever. If you just need some love to get some of that bitternes off your shoulder. You know where to find us.
Your an internet nerd you know where we’ll be next.
—————– Original Message —————–
From: Sharonda
Date: 18/12/2007
Ya, I’ll be there for sure…cause you guys are so good…(insert sarcasm here) I’ll be among all the other people who wont be in atendance again. Nobody came to see your busted ass “employer” they were there for DOOM who was not there.
case closed.
—————– Original Message —————–
From: Mobonix
Date: Dec 18, 2007 11:22 AM
take care of your self.
i’ll be the guy on sunset blvd. next week sipping on hen.
Have fun at your dead end job.
Ya, those guys are going to go far on the wings of a no-show rapper. I had forgotten that it was the same losers that opened at the hassan chop show last year at the loft when it actually was DOOM that showed but never touched a microphone. Jon Robinson needs to stay away from such preformances as he is a hell of a rapper.
WATCH THE VIDEO, DUMMIES — HE IS NOT LIP SYNCHING
Were you there? Are you crazy? Those are studio vocals. Notice how all the other mics sound like shit and his sound like he is in a sound booth. Notice how the mic never leaves his face except when his back is turned to the crowd.
And “DUMMIES’? What’s with the name calling???Didn’t your mom tell you not to call people names…that’s just not nice.
You should fly to LA and see his NYE show. It should be amazing.
And the real okeey-dok was….
you paid $30 dollars to see him
I think it’s funny as hell that he’s got doubles doing shows and interviews. Every president has a few look alikes and I’m sure they do speeches and dinners. But Doom needs to step his game up get his doubles some voice boxes. And some lazy eye cream or some thin’ .
On the real
I blame this shit on the Vaudeville Villain I think he’s behind it all. He’s been behind the scenes on the low working with MF grim on some direct action sabotage shit.
PS
This don’t get talked about enuff but here I go… I’m mad at batman for sending in those actors for his movies they don’t even look like him. I’ll post Bruce Wayne’s damn address in Detroit if he doesn’t shape up and I’ll send Guilty Simpson to knock down his door. I see through that mask I know it ain’t you.
yo I dun think no DOOM fan wants to see this happen but I am just wondering if he has lost his voice.
YO. WATCH THE VIDEO. HE DOES THAT ‘Pretend Accordeon’ thing which is NOT ON THE RECORD.
Doomposter?
http://fakeshoredrive.blogspot.com/2007/12/doomposter.html
Yeah come in Montreal do this we gon punch you out of the stage FAKE ASS
We not soft like this crowd ..
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LOL @ Doomposter!
Daniel may have a few tricks up his sleeve yet…
That’s wack as shit. I’ve just lost a lot of respect for Doom. I’ve followed yo since Gas Face and Plumskinnz and now he goes out like that? That’s that bullshit. I echo my man up top, Doom is relegated to straight burn status.
ps- not only that but even with the mask on you can tell it isn’t yo. That nigga look like Busy Bee. lol.
Doom- you fucked that money up, was it worth it?
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This is some ignorant stuff being said here. No way that Doom (for it is him) is miming – listen to Accordian, he switches up the lyrics several times from the CD version (partic. throwing “doggone it” into the line about “don’t touch the mic like it’s AIDs on it”). And check out his ‘humming’ following the “playing yourself like the accordian” line. Listen to those in the first video above, then come back here and say that it’s the CD. It’s patently different.
A lot of you cats responding on this blog that DOOM didn’t lip synch his lyrics are sadly mistaken. Tell that to someone that wasn’t there. I was the one filming and was tapped on the shoulder three times like “that ain’t DOOM homie” If you look at the 3rd pic down you’ll see DOOMPOSTER messing with the CD PLAYBACK machine. He did that often. It took these cats forever to set up and we couldn’t be anywhere near the side of the stage!!!! Listen to the audio on the video!! That was taken with a regular digital camera!!! How the hell them joints gone sound that good on YOU TUBE unless I was getting an audio feed from the board!!!! I’m not even the biggest DOOM fan so I could care less. I ain’t pay $30 to get in and I got them 10.5 DOOMS!!!!!
Doom = Bullshit…………….all of em sitting back laughing…..someone needs to take that mask off next time. that would be some funny shit, i say at the next show somebody put up a reward for that shit i bet them lame ass ma fuckas would come back, like the dude said from montreal, yall should of bum rushed the stage a wooped all they asses…..punk ass lip singing milli vanilli pop want to be stars. they all broke. fuckem all, hip hop has gotten gay when the artist AND the artist record label, this stones throw assholes prob think its funny too, i say fuck them as well.
Yo peace Kaos! We met in NYC a while back in the summer time. I’m still down to come out man, bring some artists thru. I really want to do a tour outside of the east coast.
That Doom shit is crazy. I will never ever pay for Doom to rock one of my shows. I met him without the mask before too. That is not him! This dude is crazy for trying to pull off that bullshit!
Anyway keep in touch brother!
Sav Killz is working hard. I would love to come out and rock one of your shows
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ChicaGOrilla, did you happen to catch the part about Tye Buddah’s fat ass climbing off the stage to beat up and fan? I can’t really remember how I ended up getting drug out by my neck. I know they had it out for me from booing those faggots from MOBONIX off the stage and once they drug me outside they tried to say it was me that threw that cup or whatever it was.
DOOM is a busta
MJQ bouncers are some faggots
The bruises are fading but the pain of being dupped by your favorite lyricist will never fade. Boycott the album, shows etc…
I can’t believe that they are still promoting the NYE appearance on Stonesthrow. Far too legit of a label for that kind of trife shit regardless of how dude can flow.
GRIMM was right
You guys are full of s h i t do a google search for MF DOOM pics and you’ll see it IS THE SAME GUY! There are some haters out there that do not want DOOM to succeed but true fans will not be deterred. SEARCH HIS PIC!
Search his PIC???
We SAW the nigga up front!!!
Some of us on here actually KNOW the nigga….
That wasn’t him that night!!
I’m feelin’ what “IllMfksz1″ said…
If that nigga pulls this shit in yall’s city,
Punch that muthafucka in the FACE!!!!
I couldn’t understand some parts of this article ED!!! PULLS A MILLI VINILLI | The Kaos Effect, but I guess I just need to check some more resources regarding this, because it sounds interesting.
Hello webmaster…Man i love reading your blog, interesting posts ! it was a great Sunday
common you fools. watch that video. That is clearly not the studio vocal track. You can here him changing up the verses. Dont jump onn this haters band wagon. That is doom
Look. The real DOOM’s lips are more red. (No homo)
http://www.lifelounge.com/resources/IMGDETAIL/MF_DOOM.jpg
The lower lip gives it away (look at the 10th pic). That def isn’t DOOM.
the imposter’s name is DJ WESU. You can find his myspace off of Mobonix’s myspace friend. Doom was actually at the atlanta show with these fucking ass clowns.
Here is photo proof for all non-believers.
“MF DOOM” MJQ
http://thekaoseffect.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/mfdoom2.jpg
“DJ WESU”
http://a716.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/54/l_9ac5fae4844767e164a8ecef177e682b.jpg
hmm… pretty convincing.
more convincing though…
“DJ WESU” (notice the scar on his hand)
http://a356.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/61/l_770e07b8d7e29bc8e238077e20cc61b3.jpg
“MF DOOM” (notice the exact same scar DJ WESU has)
http://thekaoseffect.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/mfdoom1.jpg
http://extragrind.blogspot.com/2007/08/mf-doom-imposter-say-it-aint-so-doom.html
help from the fellow named Drunken
Hello webmaster…Thanks for the nice read, keep up the interesting posts..what a nice Tuesday
Ah I checked the video and that seems like it is him.
I mean think about it. Why go to all this trouble and send some poser to collect your money for you?
nice detective work, singlemalt & drunken. .
I haven’t yet watched this video, but the Rock the Bells one from over the summer was just embarassing.
I feel bad for anyone who is still paying to see doom live.
Villain is bullshitting. MF GRIMM in 2008.
If any of you were at the Doom show could you please send me an email at ben.westhoff@gmail.com? (Please include your phone number in the email.) I’m writing about the show for Creative Loafing.
Hi…Man i just love your blog, keep the cool posts comin..holy Wednesday
Yo “singlemalt”… you right ON IT sun!!
That IS WESU!! I went to the Art Institute with that dude…
Holy SHIT!!! It never even crossed my mind…
And they’re all affiliated so it’s really making sense now!
Wowwww! ATL’ niggas runnin game on they own peoples???
Yo Kaos… you should git at that dude from The Loafing…
See if he’s fo’ real or not…
Creative Loafing put DOOM on the cover in the Summer of 2002…
They titled the issue… “ATL’ Underground Hip-Hop”… (of all things)…
But the only valid person they had in there was Dres Tha Beatnik…
And all they gave him was a 3-sentence quote… out of 3 f@ckin’ PAGES??!!
How do I punch DOOM? Dudes wearing a mask, I don’t wanna punch metal. Maybe in his fat beer belly.
he WAS lipsynching
all they did was play some random live Doom show (with Doom’s vocals on there) so that Doom fans that know what the real songs sound like will think that fake Doom wasn’t lip synching
fake Doom looks like Forest Whitaker…..
http://a433.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/104/l_00d5a0944894c1da66047007b0f1fee8.jpg
http://cms.pitchforkmedia.com/images/image/42733.MFDoom3.jpg
You guys just got DOOMED! Thats what you get for listening to hiphop herbs.
Hello…Man i just love your blog, keep the cool posts comin..holy Sunday
Hi…Man i just love your blog, keep the cool posts comin..holy Sunday
yup………..i knew it was wesu……………..damn them mobonix cats is gay and lame as hell……why videotape yourself doing a fake show with a fake dude…………………hmmmmi guess tricking people into thinking that they actually rap……..I been known those dudes and NO they don’t partake in this culture. Revolutionary…….shit this takes away from my culture 100 times more than Shawty Lo
Happy New Year!All the best for 2008.
Looks like the same thing happened in LA for NYE:
http://junglescene.com/forums/topic-1-197206-MfDOOM_LIpSynk__Yep.html
MF FAKED IT ON NYE in LA…HA WHOOPS! DAVE BEAT ME TO IT!
i really cant totally tell if it is that dj wesu cat, but if so, he should stop messin wit those dudes and do his own thang. hes got some ill ass beats, check out the ryu riddim
http://www.myspace.com/djwesu
but either way, this site seems to be filled with DOOM haters, maybe you all should just stay home and not support DOOM. u should know by now what kind of dude he is. listen to his lyrics. his real fans will always support him, lip syncing, or not. maybe he lost his voice. maybe the rumor about his heart attack was real. who knows???
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DOOMbots
His most frequently-used robots are his “Doombots,” exact mechanical replicas of the real MF DOOM. They look like him, talk like him, and even act like him.
Individually, Doombots have an advanced A.I. program that causes them to believe themselves to be the real MF DOOM. In order to prevent his duplicates from harming or out-performing him, MF DOOM installs each Doombot with a dampener program that reduces all of its abilities when activated. This program is triggered whenever a Doombot enters MF DOOM’s presence or the presence of other Doombots. These imitation Dooms have been created to impersonate MF DOOM when he either cannot be present or is unwilling to risk his own life (such as when confronting powerful foes)
The man is a genius and lives his persona even in real life. . . . . basically he’s fukking mental
MF DOOM, the single most interesting character to ever be involved in Hip Hop. Hate it or love it.
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if you put water into a cup of tea
it becomes the cup of tea
Hello…I Googled for bruce dern, but found your page about ED!!! PULLS A MILLI VINILLI | The Kaos Effect…and have to say thanks. nice read.
very interesting.
i’m adding in RSS Reader
Hello…Thanks for the nice read, keep up the interesting posts..what a nice Monday
He didn’t so much pull a Mili Vinilli as he did a Mad Villain. He even told you he was coming on the song One Beer.
“He plots shows like robberies
In and out
One, two, three, no bodies please
Run the cash and you won’t get a wet sweatshirt
The mic is the shootie nobody move nobody get hurt
Bring heat like the boy I’m going to war
Came in the door, and everybody on the floor
A whole string of jobs like we are on tour
Everynight on the score coming to your corner store”
Thanks. Nice Site!
The first video, he does some ad libbing at :40 sec into it. That’s not on the CD. What about that?
Another thing. This guy (in the photos above) has a “fish hook” shaped scar on his right hand. You can see it when he’s holdin’ the mic.
In these other photos on flikr, there is no scar.
http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=100401837&size=o
Different guy pulled in as a substitue? Why?
oh and HERE:
http://flickr.com/photos/frolab/499166411/in/set-72157600216875630/
ashy hands… but no scar.
This dood in the photo has been using Jurgans.
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yea that sounds like some bullshit he pulled. he lost notha fan.
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the last DOOM show in minneapolis at soundset 09, there were two DOOMs on the stage. im not all the way sure which was the real one because they both seemed to have the authentic voice. it was wierd, it sounded live and not lip-synced. after the first song one looked like he had a stress attack or somethin and fell out on the side of the stage. he even tried to come back, but the security grabbed him. i dont know what DOOM was pulling, but he was definately there.
i cant find any video on the last show at soundset 09 that shows the two DOOMs, but if anyone has a link please post it. the show just happened 5-6 days ago, so i’ll keep you posted.
He pulled the same villainous behavior last night at the Grand Star Jazz Club in Chinatown, LA. I spent the day painting a 2′x4′ piece of fan art, and had intended on giving it to him during his performance. However, after coming out, no greeting, playing tracks on the laptop and no performance…why show love to a artist who doesn’t appreciate his fans.
^^^ HAHA Nathan: you just got niggered.
wesu the alleged doomposter is at http://www.myspace.com/djwesutrax microscope his page. it seems rather suspicious…
Apparently some of you don’t know this, but I’ll explain.
DOOM missed a few shows in ‘07 due to medical problems. It earned him a lot of bad reputation, and Stones Throw/DOOM and others decided to turn it into a brilliant marketing ploy.
So, for the last few years he’s been bombing shows with his imposters, but what does this all lead up to?
His yet to be released album “Born Into This” has been changed to “DOOMPosters”.
Also, look up “Doombots”, as this marketing ploy is also a brilliant allusion to Dr. Doom’s mechanical minions.